I'm beginning to think I might be the last unaugmented trans woman I know.
That's an exaggeration, of course, but it does seem that more of my friends are opting for breast enhancement than not. I can't fault them for it. No matter when in life we transition, but especially if we transition late, breast growth often does not live up to expectations, even when those expectations seem quite realistic. Each of us responds differently to hormone therapy. A body the age of mine says, hey, I'm kind of set in my ways. What's all this about late-onset puberty? Bodies can be terribly uncooperative.
Even if our bodies respond well to estrogen, they can still interfere with the feminization process by continuing to pump out testosterone at a higher than expected level (which is why I am now on a more powerful anti-androgen). That makes the estrogen work uphill, as it were.
Those who experience decent breast development can still have problems such as asymmetry or not-very-pleasing shape—two things that can also happen to women-born-female-bodied, and sometimes lead them to seek enhancement as well. In the end, it's a lucky trans woman who gets breasts she is happy with. Even that is not always about the development of breast tissue. Since breasts are mostly fat, those who have more body fat will likely have larger breasts. Lose the weight, for health reasons if no other, and the cup size might go with it.
And if that weren't enough, even decent breast development can look too small, depending on frame size. We look at breasts in proportion to the rest of the body. I see tiny East Asian women with small breasts who look perfectly fine, because their breasts are in proportion. Even larger women can look fine with smaller breasts. But there aren't many of us women-born-male-bodied who are fortunate enough to have the narrow shoulders and smaller ribcage that most women-born-female-bodied have.
I don't know how much more breast development I will experience. I have a 36-inch ribcage and I just about fit an A-cup (I'm definitely not overflowing). At least they make bras in my size, and push-up bras work rather nicely. And at least my nipples are now just about past those stupid bottom ribs that stick out (family trait). But I am far from well endowed, and I'm nowhere near proportional yet.
It's tempting to go for enhancement. I hate finding a dress or a top I really like only to realize when I'm trying it on that it's cut for a somewhat more ample bosom than I have. I would love to be proportional, nicely balanced. Really, I would prefer an operation that would reduce the size of my upper body, but that ain't gonna happen. So the only choice for proportionality is artificial augmentation.
I might change my mind, but at this point, I'm still thinking no. For one thing, I want to wait and see how much I can get naturally. I don't think I'm done yet. For another, it would take a lot for me to get used to the idea. I'm just not all that keen on carrying implants in my body. And finally, I know that my beloved does not want me to get enhanced, and her touch is more important to me than endowment.
Cleavage, softness, a bit of movement—all sexy, no doubt about it. But not the only way in which a woman is sexy. I've known very under-endowed women who were extremely sexy. How? Pretty face, graceful carriage and movements, a personality that shines through, and attitude. I think I do reasonably well on those first three (with makeup), but I think the last one is most important. The sexiest women are sexy because they know they are. And I have long walked around as if I were prettier and sexier than I really am, because I love myself now and I'm proud to be out in public. It's about attitude. Attitude enhances everything, even if not specifically my cup size.
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Hmmm...lessee. I started hormones about 5 1/2 years ago. It was at about 2 years that I finally had a comfortable a-cup (and you're right - that wasn't proportional).
It was another full year before I started to "overflow" an a-cup bra, and it was last year before I comfortably occupied a b-cup.
I find that I'm actually quite comfortable with a b-cup. It seems to be pretty close to the right size for me. So far, nature has treated me fairly well ... with a little assistance from a few pills ;-)
As an aside, loss of a cup size or so is pretty common among GGs as well - a close friend of mine went from a generous C/D size to a B when she took up running again.
You, dear M, are once again my beacon of hope. Thank you for spelling out how things have gone for you and over what period of time. I would be quite comfortable with a B cup too, and maybe I'll even get there.
As for weight loss, I know, happens to anyone. Less fat = less breast.
I know what you mean about the "last unaugmented" transwoman, I'm beginning to feel the same.
I have an aversion to surgery - apart from THAT op of course ;-) particularly for purely cosmetic reasons. Maybe that's a prudishness on my part or maybe it's my botched trach shave operation, I don't know.
Despite having a face like a brick I still think I'm unlikely to go for FFS either - it's just too much. In a way it feels a little like betraying myself. But it's also having seen not-quite-as-good-as-you'd-like FFS results too - and the hassle of looking like a road accident victim for several weeks afterwards.
Breast enlargement is more easily hidden than face & neck surgery of course and probably a great deal more straightforward. But I think it's important to see what the hormones WILL do for you, before giving up on them as a bad job and having the boobs artificially enhanced ... only to find that the hormones take longer than you expected and end up with a pair of danglers ;-)
No, don't feel alone, I'm with you. I'm mid-transition - going full time this Aug/Sept after FFS. No boob job. Maybe no bottom surgery either, but that's not the point.
I'm about an A cup, after a couple of years of hormones. Not bad for someone 5'7", 140 lbs. I'm reasonably proportioned.
One of the FFS guys I talked to recommended a chin implant, and the odd thing was that I found myself viscerally reacting against that. I was surprised to find that I didn't want anything artificial implanted in me. So, I realized right then that I'd never get breast enhancements.
I think we should be pretty open and forthright about this - everybody doesn't need implants. everybody doesn't need SRS either. We need more acceptance within our own community of folks that aren't "complete" -- I believe there is a degree of discrimination almost just within the T world - folks say "oh, I'm just a CD", as if "oh, I'm just a lower caste untouchable". It's a mindset that I see and I have friends just beginning transition that are falling prey to these assumptions - that they have to have every surgery in the book. it's a danger we should all watch out for.
cheers to all
Breast however you get them they are yours. After 14 months on HRT, I developed breast cancer one side. For almost 3 years I used silicone prosthesis, they were paid for by my health insurance co, since they couldn't discriminate when dealing with breast cancer, and bras and such. I have just finished breast reconstruction process by having a nipple reconstructed. My surgeon was very cautious and patient with his work and is very proud of the way they turned out. I had silicone implants after the reconstructions. Which is to say if I had never had breast cancer, I am not sure what my breast would look like; but with surgery, I now have a good size "C". They are not the least bit symmetrical but they do look nice.
@Chrissie: I'm definitely going to wait, especially after what MgS said. I always listen to her. :)
@Judith B: I understand about the visceral reaction. Some people feel differently, and that's fine with me.
I know what you mean about the "pecking order." People should really do only what is right for them, not what anyone else says is right. And no one should be looked down upon for their choices.
@Two Auntees: I hope I didn't imply that I don't think implants are "real." That's not how I feel, whether they're done for a medical reason -- such as yours -- or just personal. In fact, I was appalled that Keith Olbermann, who I thought was enlightened, did a commentary a few weeks ago basically making fun of Carrie Prejean's implants. I don't see why there should be a stigma attached to such a thing. Even good liberal men can sometimes be misogynistic, I guess. (His guest for that commentary made "trannie" jokes as well. It was a disgusting segment.)
I started HRT five years ago this month. I was on the ten year plan then, on purpose, I wanted to do it right and give folks in my life time to adjust. So I started at 250mcg of Estrogen a day, which is an 8th of what most women start on, and what I'm on now. I went four months that way, then added another 250mcgs at night for a total of 500mcg (Half a of 1mg table total) and did that for 2 months.
Aside for the mental and emotional changes, nothing else was going on.
I kept with the low and slow thinking, but my body had other ideas. By the time I was on 1mg a day total I started having serious development going on all in a rush. More than a year of waiting and then Holy Hannah. I was the girl that went home for summer vacation barely distinguishable from the boys my age, and came back start of next year looking like a pinup. In two months I went from finally having some tenderness to B cups.
So much for my five year plan. Poof!
They stayed there as I finally got up to "normal feminizing doses" and switch to injections at the two year mark. When I had surgery, I didn't expect anything, including the mythical one cup growth spurt post op. Sometime after my surgery I noticed my bras were hurting, and found out that I had experienced a growth spurt. So it took three years to get to a "C" cup at which time I started praying that was going to be it and that I wasn't going to get any more than that.
So you're not the only one that hasn't been augmented. I also have no interest in making them any bigger. Thanks but no. All the women in my family have needed, chosen or are seriously considering breast reductions.
It's possible when I lose a bunch of weight that I might lose some, but if family history is any indication, probably not. Women in my family aside from being well endowed, lose weight in the breasts last if ever. My doctor explained it's probably because ours are exceptionally dense and have little fat to lose. This judging by the construction of mine. Oy!
An important thing to keep in mine Véronique is every woman takes a different amount of time for her breasts to develop. I took my sister-in-law twenty years to get to C cups. Needless to say she was pissed that I got to C before she did. I kept telling her it wasn't like I was racing her, and I certainly didn't have any control over it.
So while I know you're kinda tired of waiting for so many things I think you are doing great.
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